Project:Quality Assurance/Meeting Agenda

This page hosts topics to be discussed by the QA team at its next meeting. If you are a QA team member and you cannot make a meeting, please email the team beforehand with any opinions you would like brought up on the topics to be discussed. If you are a developer who wants the QA team to review a policy or bug at an upcoming meeting, please let us know (in #gentoo-qa (webchat)) before adding it to the list of topics.

Meetings are held on the third Wednesday of every month at 1900 UTC in #gentoo-qa (webchat).

The next meeting is set for: TBA

Topics of Wednesday, February 18, 2015

Roll call (creffett, mgorny, mrueg, patrick, pinkbyte, tommy, ulm, williamh, wired, zerochaos, zlogene)
Official welcome for mrueg as new Team Member and zlogene as Deputy Lead
Games policy: Owner/permissions of top-level dirs, group for setgid games (bug #537580).
Developers ignoring (not updating) eclass/ChangeLog file.
Status check: Missing QA meeting summaries.
Status check: GTK USE flags.
Status check: Followup on decisions of past QA and Council meetings.
Open bugs with QA involvement.

Topics of Wednesday, December 3, 2014

Roll call (creffett, mgorny, patrick, Pinkbyte, tommy, ulm, williamh, wired, zerochaos, Zlogene)
Review the new QA Inquiry Wiki article.
Review the games team policies: games group, forcing /usr/games when upstream does not use it, games.eclass (points 3-5 in mgorny's reply of last Council agenda, deferred by Council to be discussed by QA).
Repoman checks for missing slot values/operators in dependencies and missing subslot operators.
Making global-scope 'use*', 'has_version' and 'best_version' fatal in EAPI 6 (already fatal in all EAPIs via PMS yet not forced by Portage yet).
Use of <maintainer/> and <herd/> elements in metadata.xml.
ncurses[tinfo] flag used to change library ABI, bug #487844.
Status checks: Missing QA meeting summaries; GTK USE flags; followup on decisions of past QA and Council meetings; bugs to which QA is assigned or CCed.
Election of new QA lead (due 2014-12-16).
Open floor.

Topics of Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Review the new QA Inquiry Wiki article.
Status check of the GTK USE flags response, perhaps check the spreadsheet to discuss the intermediate work.
Status check of the missing QA meeting summaries, perhaps work together to get it done.
Status check on what has been decided in past QA and/or Council meetings.

Topics of Wednesday, April 23, 2014

What do we do with hacked pkgconfig files? (Link)
Are there unclarities wrt what "QA team" and similar things mean in GLEP 48? An individual or the whole team? With agreement or not? (Link)
Move QA policies to the devmanual? (Suggested in "Move tree-related policies to devmanual" mail to our alias)
Where and how will we document what QA processes for both current and future Gentoo Developers and QA members? (Per Council meeting: "the council notes that QA is looking into documenting their process").

Topics of Wednesday April 16, 2014

Portage tree business

... based on communication on our alias and/or IRC channel:

Where are the GNOME and QA team at with the GTK flag issue? (Mail was sent, either defer agenda item or ask leio or eva [were working on something])
Rely on dynamic dependencies (has binpkg and subslot problems), revision bumps (causes some unnecessary rebuilds) or keep status quo when changing dependencies in an existing ebuild?
Short look at the recent QA assigned bugs: How do we deal with bug #507808 [metadata breakage]? Do we help with bug #440214 [help requested with readme.gentoo.eclass]? ...

QA processes and disagreements

... requested to be discussed by Council members:

Handling disagreements among ourselves (wrt two recent alias threads); do we need to change the QA process, or is the problem elsewhere?

More QA concerns

... raised by Gentoo Developers on the Gentoo mailing lists:

What will we do about the missing QA meeting logs and summaries?

Topics of Wednesday March 26, 2014

Rotating meeting times/other ways to get everyone to be able to make a meeting
vapier stabilizing on experimental arches (continued from last meeting, waiting on the Council to weigh in) (still continued, council hadn't met when we held the meeting)
Revisit policy on dropping packages to unstable when stabilization takes too long (need input from Zero_Chaos)
Tinderbox?
Status update on GTK flag issue
(time permitting) How to get more developers helping with QA work?

Topics of Wednesday February 19, 2014

Deprecating/banning EAPIs
Revisit policy on dropping packages to unstable when stabilization takes too long
vapier stabilizing on experimental arches (continued from last meeting, waiting on the Council to weigh in)
Multislot issue (continued, results from forums poll)
Review GTK USE flag situation as discussed on mailing lists (continued from last month)

Topics of Wednesday January 29, 2014

What should our workflow be for making policy?
What communication is expected when making changes to other devs' packages
What to do about the GTK USE flag situation? (hasufell's recent emails)
Official recommendation for how to recommend optional RDEPs (relevant to bug 498832)
What large projects do we want to tackle as a team? (See and/or add them to "Possible Future Project" in Project:Quality_Assurance/Current_projects)
- Suggested project: Assist in migrating ebuilds away from EAPI 0/1/2 to latest.
How do we evaluate whether future stabilization improves or becomes worse? How bad is stabilization really at the moment? How can we make more users and/or developers interested in arch testing (and/or Gentoo)? Do we want to make a policy change now, or delay considering it till a later meeting in the future? ...? (WilliamH's stabilization thread)